Kate Cassidy of The-Secret-Work.com is interviewed by Geoff Fitzpatrick and Scott Onstott. We discuss the esoteric tradition stretching back 2160 years, identifying its threads in Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, in the brilliance of Francis Bacon, secrecy in general, and how to use the lessons of the past to help one grow in the present. We touch also on the fear of death, the recent Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, and find seeds of hope in how the pandemic is changing the way increasing numbers are interacting online.